8/8 Good wood

An eight-game losing streak will make you do crazy things. Just ask Jeff Samardzija, who showed his frustration Wednesday by breaking his bat over his knee. The Cubs ended their West Coast swing with a 2-0 loss to the Padres, dropping their eighth in a row. The only plus side to their two California trips this season is that the weather was nice. The Cubs went 0-10 combined in San Francisco, Los Angeles and San Diego. Samardzija (7-10) took the loss on Wednesday, and needed a new bat after striking out to end the seventh.

“It just felt good to snap it like a toothpick,” he said.

“Right now, when you start losing games and a lot of things aren’t going your way, you’re going to see some frustrations come out,” Cubs manager Dale Sveum said. “That’s part of the game. It’s OK to see guys with emotion and fire. Those are guys you want around, too.”

Samardzija did the same thing in Spring Training after he was eliminated in the bunting tournament.

“That was fun,” said Padres catcher John Baker, who had a front row seat to the snap. “That’s not an easy thing to do.”

“That’s not something you want to see,” Sveum said. “He’s a pretty strong guy. He could do it a lot easier than I could.”

– Carrie Muskat

33 Comments

I wonder if anyone out there has ever played on a really bad team; it doesn’t exactly make one play to their full potential. The very same thing will happen to Jackson, Vitters and Rizzo, mark my word. This non-sense of treating these kids Epstein/Hoyer like gods standing on their every word as this is crazy; to this point they are one hit wonders and need to earn their stripes and all they have done to date is drop payroll by moving the only performers getting little in return. Sometimes rebuilding only means a reason for excuses and job security while taking advantage of the loyal Cub fans that come out everyday win or lose; try telling your boss we’ll make money in 3-5 years and say good bye to your job. As for Sveum, doesn’t seem to the players are responding to well to his methods to date and must prove his worth as well not to method the several rookie manger mistakes he has made. Wake up Cub fans and stop going out to the park and see how fast this rebuilding mode accelerates.

I wonder how many times you’re going to copy and paste the same comment.

As many as it takes to get Cub fans to understand we are being taken advantage of…jerked if you will. Seems you may be one of the misguided fools.

How proud we all should be of Samardzija….duh. Is he the only one actually EXPECTING wins??? We ALL know that this is going to be a weak offense for quite a while, that the organization is doing the right thing by playing all the rookies for evaluation and that we will be excepting a long, losing season (or two..or three?). Time for Samardzija to step up and be a leader, showing these young kids some poise…not showing them the ghost of Zambrano. I hope Samardzija matures in a hurry and emulates GOOD Cubs pitchers like Maddux, Jenkins etc. not the hot head pitchers that throw away promising careers.

I thought of Carlos Zambrano when Jeff broke his bat.
What’s next….smashed Gatorade cooler?…..screaming at his infielders?….a Cubs catcher getting beat up in the clubhouse?

My money is on that being the last time we see Samardzija do something so foolish. Quade and Hendry are gone and I bet Sveum and Epstein have already nipped it…in the bud!

Oh, don’t worry about me being misguided.
It’s been quite a while since the the Cubs have fleeced me out of my millions.
Oh, don’t worry about me being misguided.
It’s been quite a while since the the Cubs have fleeced me out of my millions.
Oh, don’t worry about me being misguided.
It’s been quite a while since the the Cubs have fleeced me out of my millions.
Oh, don’t worry about me being misguided.
It’s been quite a while since the the Cubs have fleeced me out of my millions.

I’m not a fan because of winning or losing. lol I think it’s safe to say most true Cub fans aren’t fans because of their winning streaks. It’s easy to be a fan when your team is always good. I’m a Cubs fan because I love baseball and I love Chicago (North side that is), because they are MY TEAM. And at this point, I would rather lose another 40 with our prospects in play, than 20 with Dempster, Maholm, Baker, Soto and Johnson. As much as i liked watching Demp, Maholm, and Reed, their departures were necessary. The best of luck to every prospect and GO CUBS!

That is one of the most well stated comments in a while. Nice work Chico!

lol forgot i was still Chico. Beisbol been bery, bery good, to me

Hey, that’s what it is…I need some Cub fans as customers for my business. I’ll keep delivering a sub-quality product although I will promise better in the future and you guys will keep buying it anyway…Great! It’s not about a player or two or about rookies you no brains. It’s about poor quality product and taking your dollars in return with no concrete plan for the future. And it is about winning and losing you’re just in a state of illusion.

Hey, that’s what it is…I need some Cub fans as customers for my business. I’ll keep delivering a sub-quality product although I will promise better in the future and you guys will keep buying it anyway…Great! It’s not about a player or two or about rookies you no brains. It’s about poor quality product and taking your dollars in return with no concrete plan for the future. And it is about winning and losing you’re just in a state of illusion. Once again just for you!

Better trade Samardzija…he’s headed down the same path as Big Z. God forbid the Cubs pitchers get ticked off when they get no run support.

shark is going nowhere don’t even start that crap

If Deancee doesn’t want to be a Cub fan; he could watch another team; take up a hobby; or do something constructive (that may be expecting too much). No one appreciates your opinion when it is the same thing ad nauseam. Fans watch the Cubs for a lot of reasons. I am sure they don’t need your help figuring out where to spend their time or their money. Joey and Chico are right. Go Cubs!

Hey, another customer! One who tries to use big words! I’m guessing I was a Cub fan when you were still in diapers. Based upon your response I’m guessing you’re about 10 years old? I State this because an educated adult would come back with an analytical response…not just “cause” or blind faith.

And a mature, considerate person would respect others’ opinions and right to cheer who they want, why they want and when they want and not use such demeaning language and resort to name calling just to express THEIR oponion. Jim McBride may be right, expecting certain people to be constructive may be asking too much. I understand (I think) why Deancee would think the Cubs are a sub quality product, because a narrow view prevents seeing the bigger picture which in my humble opinion is the exact plan Epstein has set in motion which unfortunatley begins with a sub quality product. A plan none-the-less which he has stated
from the very beginning of his hire. THIS WILL BE A ROUGH ROAD BEFORE HE CAN TURN IT AROUND. That’s where us faithful fans come in. Loyalty. NOT blind faith, we SEE what’s out there on the field and we KNOW what’s going on AND the turnaround ahead. We KNOW Jackson strikes out A LOT, that Vitter’s defense is suspect at times but we also KNOW that Epstein KNOWS this as well and will determine after an extended viewing if ALL, some or none of these young “sub quality” kids wil be part of the future or not. But it has to happen this way and I for one am glad to be watching this new, young team TRY to become our talented Cubs of 2013, 2014 and beyond.

How does an “educated” individual reply to your stuff? 53 years of stupidity is actually one year times 53. I hope the math does not blow your mind. Oh, I am assuming facts not in evidence. I will be happy to tell you what any of the big words mean anytime. I cannot guarantee that you will understand. It must be really difficult living in a world where everyone is wrong but you.

I believe rain is coming.

There’s a storm coming…Mr. Wayne.

I have been a loyal Cub fan for 53 years and I’m also a loyal American citizen but that does not mean one should not question progress and change, expecting that they should take place in an expedited fashion for the better of all…period; that is not a matter of opinion but simply fact. The Ricketts purchased the club as a business for profit entity knowing no matter what product they put on the field Cub fans would still make them money; the most profitable way is to do that is simply via the farm club system. As far as Epstein is concerned, what would you expect him to say, we will win the world in one year or fire me? Please, at four million a year!!! The poorest Epstein/Hoyer can make this team look this year the better for them as any little improvement in following years make them look like there is progress; do you really think they have not discussed this over a beer? I’m really guessing you have never been in an upper management position.

1) This is mostly true, yet so what? The fact of the matter is–regardless of this being a good position for Epstein and Hoyer and the Ricketts to be in–that this is still the right formula for building a winning team with sustained success. You can’t just buy a team in baseball; it needs to be the right mix of farmgrown talent and well-chosen pickups from other teams. Look at all the teams who are competitive right now and you’ll see that all of them are relying somewhat on players that they’ve drafted and developed themselves. It’s not like they’ve just spent a ton of money on free agency and instantly created a championship team. Check it out. I challenge you to find one good team that hasn’t followed this formula.

2) Your conspiracy-theory outlook blinds you to the above facts. You may have a decent understanding of upper management (or you may not), but I haven’t heard any informed opinions about how to properly go about building a winning team. I doubt you care, in fact. You just want to grind your axe and complain and try to stir people up. In this sense you’re worthless. You have absolutely nothing of use to offer me or anyone else on this site, because…

3) You’re a troll.
“In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking readers into an emotional response[3] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.” -wikipedia
This one is probably the most relevant point of all, and if you’ll notice, many people have ignored you in line with the well known online adage, ‘Do Not Feed The Trolls.’ Because you’re a troll, it’s safe to assume some things about you, such as that you’re cowardly, bitter, lonely and, most obviously, unhappy. This is the last you’ll hear from me, and I encourage others to ignore you in the same manner.

I bid you goodbye, loyal American citizen troll. Now go back to your cave and sulk.

I am in upper management, yet still am not included in all memos….
I am not privy to the reason the Ricktetts bought the Cubs. However I will conclude
that at least PART of their reason was to make a profitable return on their investment being
sound and logical busines owners and even dreaded upper management. I will also allow
the chance another part of the Ricketts buying the Cubs was born of desire to see a team they cheer with great passion to become World Series champions after a century of futility.
I will admit to my unREASONED love and loyalty to the Cubs, hence all my vented frustration toward the team I passionatley root for. Finding it hard to REASON one being a fan is PART of being a fan. But bashing manager’s styles and GM’s decision when they are obviously begging to be questioned is done by not only myself but countless FANS.
I too (assuming Deancee, you do not as well?) do not go to the park and SPEND MONEY on the Cubs because I don’t perceive it as being a good value FOR ME. Just because money is not spent on a team does not make one any less of a fan nor diminish one’s desire to see their team improve by leaps and bonds. With this said, I completley agree with Insveum and thank him/her for the introduction to this blog of the term “troll” it being very appropriate. So, although I respect everybody’s right to express their opinion, including your’s Deancee I concur with Insveum. A point about the Ricketts desiring a profit on their investment is alone reason enough to believe they will improve the team because as we all know, regardless of how much money Cubs’ fans are “making” the Ricketts that amount would be SIGNIFICANTLY multiplied should the Cubs become sustained World Series contenders let alone CHAMPIONS! Go Ricketts! Go Epstein! Go Hoyer! Go Cubs! Bring us a HARD EARNED, WELL DEVELOPED, WELL DESERVED Cubs team!!!

Okay, let’s analyze my first comment which was to address Castro’s struggles:
First effect – I wonder if anyone out there has ever played on a really bad team; it doesn’t exactly make one play to their full potential
Second cause – Managements statement it will take several years of losing before things improve which plays on the psychic of all individuals. Players can see they are just cutting payroll thus the huge decline in their recent poor play…players are groomed from day one that winning is what it is all about. Management must prove their worth prior to (everyone should have to) prior to total loyalty and 3-5 years for improvement is just a “safe” statement anyone could make and a stretch for a large market club. And to this point clearly the players are not responding to Sveum’s leadership although in his defense, he has been setup for failure – only time will tell on the aforementioned.
Solution – Reduce attendance at the park “stop going out to the park and see how fast this rebuilding mode accelerates” which will effect profit and cause the owners to pressure the VP/GM to produce or hold them accountable. When one purchases a ticket one buys a product which is the entire team not individuals as you incorrectly referred; this is how owners, investors, accounts view and how it is reported to the IRS. Some people will indeed purchase sub-quality products no matter what (hey, people bought Yugo’s and pet rocks and still buy made in China) but most like to purchase good services and products are of good value and entertainment. Losing day after day some may consider not a good value and taking advantage of good natured loyal Cub fans in the process.
The above is called Cause, effect and solution – a well documented quality process.
Every time I come back with a logical comment you change your story (now you say the right mix of farmgrown talent and well-chosen pickups from other teams, which you have not said prior of which I would have agreed). Now who’s the troll?
If you are lessoning to TV announcers please take note of who signs their checks.
The mass majority of your comments are simply base upon argumentum ad populum or the bandwagon fallacy in addition to Argumentum ad hominem. Sorry, just based on the facts.

There is no RECENT decline in their play (I’m sure that’s what you meant? Not the double negative…”huge decline in their recent poor play”? A huge decline in poor play would result in BETTER play…right?). Anyway, there has been poor play for quite some time even well before the cutting of payroll. Also, some players MAY be effected in a negative way resulting in their performane declining. I think not and that the competitive nature of athletes if not their ego would prevent this from happening. AND…I would think in the Cubs case that most of the players (call ups, youngsters, rookies etc) would think not of this as “just” cutting payroll but an OPPORTUNITY to stake their claim to a starting postion which in turn would lead to greater wealth for them should that be one of their objectives, hopefully along with BEING VERY GOOD BALL PLAYERS. I still agree that going through this abysmal, losing period must happen before our expectaions (not faith) of the owners and upper management are realized. After all, this is the first time in recent history that an emphasis is being put on development and LONG term goals rather than a quick (i.e Soriano, Bradlely, Fukodome) band-aid approach which Hendry adopted and got us to this low point. Hendry gave us a slim window of credability at the time he acquired Ramirez and Lee but then was blinded by his ambitous and foolish free agency theory. Anyway, it is always a good thing to read such diverse opinions and at times we can ALL come close to being trolls so being careful what we write and respectful of others, and refraining from name calling is paramount. So with all due respect Deancee I do understand your “boycott” theory and do agree in most cases it would certainly work and there is a part of me that wouldn’t mind seeing owners and management “getting what they deserve”, but for some reaon I don’t feel that way about THESE owners and THIS management. Last year’s yes. These new people I will be allowing the benefit of the doubt for at leas several years. Good day.

god, this troll is dumb. it’s the first thing i’ve written to him and he says i’ve changed my story. furthermore, he still beats his dead bad-management horse, while failing to suggest what the management should be doing.
“‘stop going out to the park and see how fast this rebuilding mode accelerates’ which will effect profit and cause the owners to pressure the VP/GM to produce or hold them accountable.” — how should they produce other than this 3-4 year plan which is in motion? buy an entire team in free agency? still waiting on your masterplan, troll. all this troll says is what the management’s doing wrong, but nothing about what they should be doing.
“The mass majority of your comments are simply base upon argumentum ad populum or the bandwagon fallacy in addition to Argumentum ad hominem. Sorry, just based on the facts.” — you sound crazy, troll.

Clearly you don’t know that the winning year (2004) at Boston for Hoyer/Epstein was not linked to the farm club to any great extent. Joeydafish has the right idea just backwards. The Hoyer/Epstein years of success were based on well-chosen pickups from other teams supplemented to a small degree by farm grown talent; they traded for the starting lineup but just did it better than Hendry! Even Varitek was not farm grown but will give you Pedroia and Youkilis in 2007. This is how the Yankees, Cardinals and most successful teams make it happen. So to answer your silly question just the same as they did it in Boston. But they cannot because the new owners are watching the pennies and this was the behind the door agreement when they were hired and why their current trades for big league players have been low budget…we are now full turn to the original points.
I will keep the big words to a minimum just for you.

Insveum, as I said there is SOME logic to an overall boycott in ANY business to try to accomplish a change…for the better or worse is debable, I’ll cncede THAT much to Deancee but no more. I will be clear that I am on board with you and look forward to the current, well thought out, respectable, long term plan taking root and being successful and in no way would like to actually see a boycott (why would we even worry about such nonsense actually happeining?) at Wrigley. You may want to give more thought to your own advice (just a suggestion, not telling you what to do…), say GOODBYE to Deancee and thereby BOYCOTT him/her? I know I am giving it some thought. Hang in there and remember what IS happening with the team is what WE think is the way to go so (I call it “The Counter Hendry Philosophy”)…we are getting what we want afterall and Deancee IS NOT. Right? So we have that going for us.

I respect your comments but they did have one of the best records in baseball after the all star break and the worst since the trades of which I refer. In addition, to turn and walk away only leans on the side of defeat.

lol troll bait

By the way, only about 10 percent of minor league players are successful in the bigs. In reality, minor league baseball is a tough business where failure is the norm and success is the rare exception.

Dear Chico, Somehow one would expect such an educated response from you and I’m guessing you’re a highly successful person at life in general…shipping dock or building custodian? Keep up the good work!

I must say, this is ALL such good stuff. Carrie must be laughing her seat cushion off reading ALL our comments. What a passionate lot of people we are! Maybe the ONLY common thread we share but still a reason to hold our heads up high as Cubs fans!!! We can really take this on the road…kind of like “Bleacher Bums”??? C’mon, who’s in?!?!?!??? We’d probably all wind up being good friends.

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