11/28 Hall of Fame decisions

The Hall of Fame releases the 2013 ballot at 11 a.m. CT today, and it should prompt some interesting discussions. Sammy Sosa is one of the players on the ballot for the first time. In 18 seasons, Sosa hit more than 600 home runs. He’s the only player with three 60-homer seasons, hitting 66 in 1998, 64 in 2001, and 63 in 1999. He’s one of two National League players to reach 160 RBIs in a single season, which he did in 2001. The other was another Cubs player, Hack Wilson, who holds the single-season mark of 191 set in 1930.  He was a seven-time All-Star and six-time Silver Slugger winner. He won the Roberto Clemente Award in 1998 and the Hank Aaron Award in 1999. He hit more home runs (479) than anyone for any 10-year period. He’s the only player in NL history to have six consecutive seasons of 40 home runs. He is the Cubs’ all-time home run leader (545), passing Hall of Famers Ernie Banks, Billy Williams and Ron Santo.

But Sosa’s career also has other elements for Hall of Fame voters to consider. According to a NY Times story in June 2009, he was allegedly among 104 Major League players who tested positive for performance enhancing drugs in 2003. Sosa was never found guilty by an official MLB party. In 2005, he joined McGwire, Rafael Palmeiro, and Jose Canseco at a hearing before Congress regarding drug use in baseball. Sosa’s attorney testified on his behalf, saying the slugger had never taken illegal performance enhancing drugs.

The Hall of Fame ballot states: “Voting shall be based upon the player’s record, playing ability, integrity, sportsmanship, character, and contributions to the team(s) on which the player played.” That’s it. Do the members of the Baseball Writers Association of America, who vote for the HOF, exclude players who did not test positive but are perceived to have taken drugs? We can all agree that taking steroids or other performance enhancing drugs is cheating. But the Hall of Fame is dedicated to preserving baseball history.

“I think you have to judge people for the era they were in,” said former Cubs GM Jim Hendry in 2005. “Unless all the facts are in, speculation is a waste of time. You’ll never be able to go back and figure out who did what for sure. I’m not condoning it at all. As long as there is competitive athletics and people can get away with things, they’ll try to get a competitive edge.”

Where do you stand? Should Sammy Sosa be voted into baseball’s Hall of Fame?

— Carrie Muskat 


Sammy: Corked body, corked bat. No way he should be in the Hall with Santo, Banks and some other Cubs with integrity.

This is not my favorite discussion this time of the year, every year. Life long Cubs fan here, but even so, there are a couple Cubs I dont think belong in the HOF.
It is getting watered down every year, then you have the all time hits leader not even in the HOF.
HOF is supposed to be the best of the best. Players with a career .329 OBP or other that comitted over 25 errors at their positions several times in their careers are not the best of the best.

no, he is a cheater..let all the asterisks people have their own Hall of Shame..!!..

NO none of these cheaters should be in the Hall of fame or be associated with the game at all. Especially the ones that have admitted it.(Mcgwire).
As for Hendrys comment “I think you have to judge people for the era they were in,”
That is not what the voters have done over most of the last 10 years or so .If they did that Santo would have not had to wait for the veterans comity to vote him in. I think some players for the 70’s and 80’s who were the best of their era we not voted in because they were judged against the numbers of the PED era.

Just another lazy cop-out by Hendry. God forbid he took a stance and said what we all know….Sammy Sosa, regardless of THE ERA (Mr. Hendry, duh!) cheated. Period. No HOF.

I would like to him in the Hall of Fame, but I would rather see Lee Smith go in before him.

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Sosa and the other cheaters don’t belong in the hall of fame!!! I’d much rather see Pete Rose in!!

I would rather see Pete Rose in also…. IMO You gotta let Rose in before you let anyone associated with steriods. Steriods doesn’t improve your hand/eye coordination… it improves your strength and recovery…. so I would be fine with Sosa, Bonds, Clemens, etc etc in the HOF. They were still great players and we all were cheering and loving it when they played. The players will pay the price in their health later in life and be judged then.

Cheaters should not even be considered for the Hall of Fame…

I know we all hate cheaters BUT I would bet that the majority of the players in the HOF did something to gain an advantage on their opponent that wasn’t legal…. now I again I am not condoning their actions. Just saying that there are probably cheaters in the HOF…

You guys are right … Why is Pete Rose not in ??.. at least he didn’t cheat.. He should be rewarded for what he accomplished. His problems off the field was wrong, but didn’t illegally improve his game or numbers.

Very smooth….dave. You are exactly right. People that would be ok with these three overt cheaters being in the HOF have low standards. Says a lot. But in Rose’s case, although he didn’t cheat to improve his performance how are we supposed to be assured he didn’t cheat in some other way to influence the outcome of the games he gambled on? His situtation is a littler trickier than the blatant trespassing of the three cheaters. I would think Rose’s gambling was a little too close for comfort and he should remain banned from the HOF. Just because we can compare his less than ethical actions to those more unethical doesn’t make him WORTHY of the HOF. ALL candidates should be held to higher standards of performance AND ethics in order to get in the HOF. All four of these players do not meet the standards.

Pete Rose the all time hits leader not in the HOF, but a 3rd basman who averaged 22.5 errors a year for 14 years is.
I have been to Cooperstown and enjoyed it and the history, but a real HOF is for the best of the best.

No Jeters and Cheaters in Cooperstown. Shawon Dunston deserves to be in the hall too!!!

I don’t recall Jeter being a cheater (regarding baseball anyway….), so why wouldn’t he be deserving of the HOF? I think he’s a sure bet???

why not jeter?? he is one of the best players of the last 20 years….

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