11/12 GM meetings

The Cubs join the list of teams interested in Japanese pitcher Masahiro Tanaka.

“We’ve done our work on him,” Jed Hoyer told reporters on Monday in Orlando, Fla., at the general manager meetings. “We plan on being part of it.”

Tanaka, 25, was 24-0 with a 1.27 ERA in 28 regular season games with the Tohoku Rakuten Golden Eagles.

Major League Baseball and Nippon Professional Baseball were discussing potential changes to the posting fee agreement. No matter what is decided, Tanaka may not fit in the Cubs’ budget, especially with the Yankees and Dodgers reportedly interested in the right-hander.

Tanaka is the most sought after Japanese pitcher since Yu Darvish signed with the Rangers prior to the 2012 season. Texas paid the Hokkaido Nippon Ham Fighters a $51.7 million posting fee and then signed Darvish to a six-year, $60 million contract.

* The Cubs also have a pitcher whose name has been talked about this offseason and that’s Jeff Samardzija, who has been mentioned in trade rumors with the Nationals and Diamondbacks.

“Teams will certainly inquire about him,” Hoyer said. “He’s really proved over the last two years that he has great stuff. He’s a tough competitor.”

The Cubs and Samardzija have talked about a possible long-term deal. The right-hander is under club control for two more seasons. He’s coming off his first full season as a starter in which he was 8-13 with a 4.34 ERA, 214 strikeouts over 213 2/3 innings.

“There could be rumors,” Hoyer said. “Jeff has the perfect mentality for that. He just doesn’t pay attention. I think it’s somewhat the nature of being in a big market. You are going to have your name out there.”

The Cubs are in the market for pitching, hoping to add another starter and some bullpen help, including a closer, this offseason.

* Hoyer said the Cubs will announce their coaching hires at one time, and expect to name a hitting coach from outside the organization.

– Carrie Muskat

22 Comments

I like the way Hoyer is talking up Samardzija….like he is anticipating a trade? Where is this “great stuff” that Samardzija has? In a storage unit? Antique cars? What? He has GOOD stuff. GREAT is used a little too liberally these days. Unless the STUFF is limited to his durability. He has proven he is durable but GREAT? I don’t think so. He still can, whether it will be with the Cubs is suspect. Tanaka would be just about the biggest statement the Cubs can make this winter. Can anyone imagine signing him to a long enough contract that he will be a participant for a WS run? I like this dream!!

214 K’s in 214 IP, not many Starting Pitchers accomplish that. That alone says alot about his stuff.
As we all know, there is never enough Pitching. It will take a huge amount to sign Tanaka and thats just one Pitcher. Epstein & Hoyer know what they are doing, as a fan I have to go along with whatever they decide, but I am not jumping on the Tanaka band wagon.
The Cubs have many starting pitchers doing very well and on their way. Plus, after the 2014 Draft there will be a few more. Plus, if Samardizja is traded, that will bring two or three more.
When signing a FA Pitcher, there is no ( set in stone promise ) that he will be there, to many arm injuries. Fujikawa is an excellent example of wasted money, Baker trying to come back to fast, last Spring Training, then not making a start until SEP is another example of a wasted 5 Million dollars.
I like the way they are currently going about Pitching, the many drafted the last two years. Every trade get you back excellent Pitching prospects. Signing Malholm & Feldman, then flipping them for younger with more upside Pitchers. Trading Dempster & Garza, doing the same.
I am sure they will have a price for Tanaka in mind, if it exceeds what they can do, at least it drives up the cost for other Organizations.

I just hope the Cubs win the bid war for Tanaka. Everything I’ve read about him he’s the genuine article. Samard? id they trade him they better receive a proven major leaguer, plus about 2 or 3 of the teams top line prospects.

They better??? lol

So you think Samardizja is worth a “proven” ML player PLUS two or THREE “top line” prospects? That’s asking a lot for him I think, but I hope you are right Delaware. I doubt we will get that much however considering he is not a GREAT pitcher. Again, I hope you are right.

I saw Samardzija pitch against the Nats in DC this past May. I was positive they could beat the Nats with him on the mound. Nope. But Edwin Jackson was able to beat Stephen Strasburg the next day. Go figure!

Now that was put very well, most forget that anyone can be very good on a given day. In fact a guy like Edwin Jackson can have a bad year, but still bounce back the next.
How many starting pitchers, like Samardizja can K 214 hitters in 214IP? That is a very good sign of great stuff. The only reason I am for trading Samardizja, is because he dont want to sign a long term deal. So, if he is not happy in Chicago, get what you can while the value is high.

That’s what I’m hoping for.

“Great” point chick! Ha! Your point is “greater” than Samardizja’s “stuff”. He indeed had a great strike out ratio. Not great “stuff”. The Cubs’ future may be better served by trading him. I hope the day will come when Hoystein has all the pieces put together but for a few VERY GOOD to GREAT starting pitchers and at that time he will BUY them. But for 2014 and 2015…I think Samardizja is very tradable.

He has very good stuff, 214 k’s in 214 IP is a SIGN OF GREAT STUFF! Starting to get it? Does the Capitol letters help you understand?
Just so you know, I DONT NEED THEM.
LOL @ joey as usual.

That’s what I’m hoping for. It’s probably their best bet.

HAVING VERY GOOD STUFF AND HAVING SIGNS OF GREAT STUFF IS NOT HAVING GREAT STUFF. BUT GREAT TRY, AS USUAL. AS WELL AS CONCESCENDING…AS USUAL. STUFF THIS YOU CONDESCENDING, HOLIER THAN THOU KNOW IT ALL. NOW I AM LMAO. SOMETIMES IT DOES FEEL GOOD GIVING IT RIGHT BACK, FIRE WITH FIRE. SAMARDIZJA DOES NOT HAVE GREATSTUFF, AT LEAST NOT YET…GET IT? OF COURSE NOT.

Ever hear of POTENTIAL, Samardizja has only been a starter two years, last year his 1st full year.
I am still not saying, keep him. I am trying to get across his high value right now.
IDIOT!

POTENTIAL IS NOT HAVING GREAT STUFF. GET IT? OF COURSE NOT. WHO ARGUED HIS HIGH VALUE? IDIOT. I SAID HE IS VERY TRADEABLE. IF HE IS TRADED HIS HIGH VALUE AND POTENTIAL IS WHAT WILL YEILD A GOOD RETURN, NOT HIS GREAT STUFF AS HE HAS NO GREAT STUFF…AS OF YET.
GET IT? OF COURSE YOU DON’T, IDIOT. HOYER SAID HE HAS GREAT STUFF, I HAPPEN TO DISAGREE, GET IT? DISAGREEMENT? GET IT? OF COURSE YOU DON’T, IDIOT. ALL I NEED DO IS REMEMBER HOW UN-WILLING SOME PEOPLE ARE WHEN ACCEPTING DIFFERENCES OF OPINION, GET IT? NO, YOU DON’T!! HA! HEY THIS IS VERY CATHARTIC, THANKS!! IDIOT (MAYBE WHITE SHOUD TRY THIS?)

Hi joey – Well I am pretty good at swearing and all that stuff when I fall down or can’t even peel a potato but it only makes me dizzier! :) ergo : “The Brownie Therapy”. :) I am trying NOT to let the “Mean Buzzards” on these blogs upset my “Applecart” or sink my “Sailing Ship”! As you know, I become attached to our guys, I really like Samardj, etc. BUT if he is traded so be it. Just saw that Marlon Byrd got a nice deal with the Phillies. During the off season it just seems to be a waiting game to see who ends up where. Nerve wracking! Have a good day!

Good old, Fishy Joe. I see I’m not the only one who brings the obnoxious fool out in you. Trouble with your caps lock button, buddy? Anyway, the thing to also keep in mind about Samardizja is that being a star football player at Notre Dame, I doubt he spent as much time focusing on baseball as his fellow college pitchers who weren’t star players on their college’s football team. He’ll be 29 next season, but experience-wise he’s probably in the 25 or 26 year old range, meaning he’s just coming into his prime. If you look beyond his ERA and win total, neither of which tell the full story of a pitcher’s performance, his numbers are pretty impressive (whether he has tremendous stuff, stupendous stuff, or even ludicrous stuff), which means he could net multiple top 100 prospects if the Cubs do wish to trade him. Will they trade him this offseason? I’m not even going to venture a guess right now.

I dont think he is traded in the offseason. Maybe the trade deadline after his name is kicked around some for the next couple of months. Maybe get more for him then. Clubs in the race are always looking for that one pitcher to maybe put them over the hump. He does have value though and i feel his workout ethics as a football player at N.D. has only helped.

Kenly, I agree with regarding his work ethic. Should the Cubs trade him they will receive some good value in return. Should they keep him and he BECOMES a great pitcher within a year or two that would be good too because then the Cubs could sign their own great pitcher for a few more years and go out and sign another great pitcher to go along with Samardizja and before you know it we may be in the hunt for a playoff berth!! Still, I think the he will be traded…..

Hey there bad ol’ Dougy….how you doin’ yourself? Glad to see you’re mean old self is still at it and OUT in force with no help whatsoever. You should take “GREAT” pride in being lumped in with all the other inconsiderate posters that bring out my obnoxious self. Thanks for the nod to my caps button, not stuck just using them to bring out the condescending Jasper (as if there is another?). Maybe the other know it all will understand YOUR comment since you speak the same language. You point out that Samardizja’s numbers are pretty impressive (agreed), that he is just now coming into his own (agreed) NEITHER of which means he has GREAT stuff. Never have I stated he will not have great stuff in the future but he has none at this point. Tremendous stuff? Stupendous stuff? Ludicrous stuff? I’m not even going to venture a comment regarding YOUR adjectives as Hoyer use the word GREAT and that is what I was expressing my opinion about. This is GREAT stuff, thanks for bringing it out.

I must say he would make a great 3 hole pitcher and possibly 2. But the salary would have to be right and obviously that is a sticking point.

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