11/18 Roster moves

Major League teams have until Wednesday to protect players from being selected in the Rule 5 Draft by adding them onto their 40-man roster. A little background: The Rule 5 Draft takes place Dec. 12, the last day of the Winter Meetings. Between Wednesday’s roster deadline and Dec. 12, teams will not be permitted to add players from the Minor League rosters to the Major League 40-man roster. Teams can add Major League free agents or players acquired in trade. The Cubs’ 40-man roster is currently at 37.

Who is eligible for the Rule 5 Draft? Players who signed at age 19 or older become Rule 5 eligible after four years. That means any players who signed out of college in the 2010 Draft are eligible. A player who signed his first pro contract at age 18 or younger has five years before becoming eligible. Players drafted out of high school in 2009 are in this pool.

As a refresher, here are the players on the Cubs’ 40-man roster:

Pitchers (19): Jake Arrieta, Daniel Bard, Alberto Cabrera, Kyuji Fujikawa, Justin Grimm, Edwin Jackson, Chang-Yong Lim, Blake Parker, Brooks Raley, Neil Ramirez, Hector Rondon, Zac Rosscup, Chris Rusin, James Russell, Jeff Samardzija, Pedro Strop, Carlos Villanueva, Arodys Vizcaino, Travis Wood.

Catcher (1): Welington Castillo.

Infielders (10): Darwin Barney, Starlin Castro, Mat Gamel, Donnie Murphy, Mike Olt, Anthony Rizzo, Luis Valbuena, Christian Villanueva, Josh Vitters, Logan Watkins.

Outfielders (7): Brian Bogusevic, Brett Jackson, Junior Lake, Nate Schierholtz, Jorge Soler, Ryan Sweeney, Matt Szczur.


Throw Bard off.
Murphy will be gone.

That gives us 35….add 5 from minors to protect.

I think this is one we would all disagree on. Myself, I would go with Bard & Raley, of course that depends on how many spots they need protection for.
Bard with his troubles, yep pretty much a no brainer.
I really dont think Raley will ever be very effective at the ML level.

Not having the time to look up when each of the prospects signed, a list of who needs to be protected would be helpful. Anyone up to that?

Isn’t Travis Wood on there?

There are currently 18 pitchers listed, so she probably just forgot to add Travis Wood as the 19th pitcher.

My bad re: Travis Wood. Will correct. Thanks

That would be a project Doug, lol. I think I will wait & see what they do.

I was just meaning the headliners in the organ.. Not a full list. Just thought there might be someone out there who was more ambitious than I.

The list/explanation is well done.

Very well done & appreciated.🙂

THANKS!! That is great.

THANKS!! That is great.

I wouldn’t start throwing people off the 40-man roster unless it was necessary. The Cubs probably shouldn’t worry about any of their low minor leaguers or fringe prospects being selected, as the team who selects them will have to keep them on their roster for all of 2014 or else return them to the Cubs. Alcantara is a top prospect near the top of the minors and probably worth protecting. Maybe guys like Jae-Hoon Ha and Eirc Jockish are protected too. Beyond that, anyone they lose is probably no big deal or likely to be returned to the Cubs at some point. And if you begin to panic about who the Cubs might lose, keep in mind that they’ve lost Marwin Gonzalez and Ryan Flaherty since Theo & Co. took over, and neither one has really done much with their new teams.

I would think that the two AFL pictures, Dallas Beeler & Matt Loosen would be moved to the 40 man, along with Arismendy Alcantara. I only say this because there are some who believe they will be called up sometime next year. That makes them an easy low risk, low cost chance for any team. Like we have done the last two years with rule 5 guys.

Hello Doug. Always nice to meet another one! I thought about Beeler and Loosen. Beeler had some injury problems last season, so I’m guessing his AFL stint was to get a few more innings in that he missed out on during the regular season. Generally, he has good control but he doesn’t miss many bats and gives up a lot of hits, which doesn’t really translate well to pitching at Wrigley and with a SS who is still a work in progress in the field. And Loosen has had some arm issues as well, and hasn’t had much success above High-A yet. My thought is, if another team really wants to use their Rule 5 pick on them and use up one of their 25-man roster spots on a guy who belongs in AAA or another guy who belongs in AA, good luck to you! Besides, the Cubs probably shouldn’t go all the way up to 40 on their 40-man roster before the Rule 5 Draft, just in case they want to sign a free agent or make a trade. I’d be willing to take my chances that both don’t get picked, but if they do then you’ve still got guys like Kyle Hendricks, Barret Loux, Trey McNutt, Armando Rivero, and Tony Zych who can take their place.

Doug is very correct, I would debate on Beeler. The facts you give up on Beeler are very correct concerning Wrigley Field. If I had not seen him pitch twice in the Fall League, I would have agreed 100%
He is not a power pitcher, does not strike out alot. He also makes some very good contact with bats, I have not looked up his fly ball/ground ball stats. But I can tell you there were alot of ground outs to 2B in the Championship game, hard hit but on the ground. The SS made an error on a hard hit ground ball.
Beeler had more K’s than the norm in that game, the umpire was strike happy and Beeler took advantage of that.
I also seen him pick off two runners in the 1st inning, the first game I seen him pitch.
I guess, in my opinion, he pitches with savy. Very smart using the umpire to your advantage, very smart knowing when to pick guys off with an excellent move.
I would give him another year, possibly two to get that control down. I think he will, he definately pitches smart.

Nice discussion, guys. I don’t think Loosen or Beeler are ready for the big leagues yet — remember, if picked in the Rule 5 Draft, they have to stay on the big league roster all season — and that could factor in the Cubs’ decisions re: who to add. Alcantara will likely be added to protect him

Where is our international prospects that we signed this year?

Can you be a little more specific? If you mean Eloy Jimenez and Gleyber Torres, they played in Instructional League. They’re only 16 yrs old.

I think that was his question Carrie. How do they fall into all the Rule IV rules? Also, when Campana was traded to the D Backs, the Cubs picked up a 16 y/o and 17 y/o Pitchers.
Guess I don’t understand the whole time frame thing.

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