5/20 Cubs lineup vs Yankees

Jason Hammel starts Tuesday night when the Cubs face the Yankees in a brief two-game Interleague series. The Yankees swept the Cubs in a day-night doubleheader in April at Yankee Stadium. New York will counter with Masahiro Tanaka, who is 6-0 with a 2.17 ERA.

This is the third time the Cubs have hosted the Yankees at Wrigley since the 1938 World Series.

Here’s the lineup:

Bonifacio CF
Lake LF
Rizzo 1B
Castro SS
Valbuena 2B
Schierholtz RF
Olt 3B
Baker C
Hammel P


I am just wondering…..I like to ask Doug and others…Who are these Free Agent starting pitchers that the Cubs will go after in 2015 and beyond to fill their needs?

I’m not saying the Cubs should target a specific pitcher for the 2015-16 offseason right now. It’s way way way too soon for that anyway. I’m saying that the plan all along has been you build your organizational foundation through the draft and other acquisitions of young talent. When the time comes where you feel that the young talent is at a point where they can compete for the playoffs, then you look to fill in the weaker spots on the team. So, for example, in 2016, the Cubs could have a few of their own prospects in the rotation or competing for a spot in the rotation. If the Cubs feel that they can compete and that they can get a better starting rotation, then they will target whichever starting pitcher they feel would best help the team make the playoffs. Figuring out who it is and what they will cost is Step 10, and right now we are only on Step 2, so there’s no point in figuring it out right now. And drafting now so that we can potentially skip Step 10 when we get to it two years down the road is not the way to do it either.

I though we were at Step 2 two years ago……….right now, we don’t know who will be drafted……or where this team will be at in 2016 or beyond………MLB Trade Rumors has a list of Free Agent Pitchers of where their velocity is at…….Masterson, lost almost 3 mph on his fast ball……….and Masterson is suppose to be sought after by many teams……..meanwhile, enjoy this AAA product that the Cubs have on the field for 2014, 2015, 2016……

The thing is all the steps are continuous. There is no moment where you’re like “okay, we finished Step 2, let’s move on to Step 3, and be completely done with Step 2 forever and always.” You’re always looking to develop and maximize young talent. And you’re right, we don’t know who the Cubs will draft. But they should focus on the player who has the most talent and who they project to be the most successful Major Leaguer, not on what positions they need now or might need in two years. And again, you’re worrying about Step 10 now when we’re only on Step 2. Don’t focus in on a specific pitcher and don’t start saying you have to draft a pitcher that will be ready in two years even if there are more talented players available because any free agent you sign in two years might have some sort of health issue and velocity drop at some point in the future. You will figure that part out when you get there, and there will be options. Heck, maybe signing a Jason Hammel-type pitcher is the move to make? Or maybe David Price will be available and you give him a lot of money for a lot of years with the expectation that he will make you a World Series contender right away, which trumps whatever the tail end of the contract is. At this point, you just focus on acquiring the best young talent you can find to build the foundation of the franchise and nothing else!

Here is another question for the Cubs faithful……..name a free agent pitcher who does not have TJ issues, who is not on his last leg in his MLB career, that will want to sign with a team who lost four straight 90 plus seasons, a team that has no hitting, and plays in a old stadium that does not have facilities like other newer ballparks!……..I will wait for your answer!

When you’re signing a free agent pitcher when you feel the Cubs window to compete is open, you aren’t concerned with how they will hold up over the course of a, say, five-year contract. You are signing them to win that year. And we’re not talking about the Cubs signing free agents right now. We’re talking about when the first wave of prospects are up, after Kris Bryant is Rookie of the Year in 2015, when most baseball people can tell the Cubs are on the verge of turning the corner. The fact the Cubs lost 101 games in 2012 won’t matter to a free agent if they can see the light at the end of the tunnel. Again, most of your criticisms have to do with the current state of the Cubs, and all those are moot in this case because the Cubs of the 2015-16 offseason won’t be trying to sign a free agent to the 2014 team. As for the stadium, you act like the Cubs or the Red Sox or the Dodgers or the A’s or any other team with an older stadium without many of the modern frills has never landed a free agent before. They will come if the money is right, if they think they can win, if they think they’ll get the playing time they expect, and if they don’t mind living here for at least half of the year. That’s how it matters, in that order, more or less.

Once again u show ur age n ignore the fact of all the successful TJS it even improves certain guys. Also there appears to be a trend forming in that pitchers over 30 are not having the TJ issues…. The percentages r significantly less for some reason.

– Dodgers, A’s, Red Sox are much better teams then the Cubs……they are Playoff teams…..Cubs are bottom dwellers in their division for the past three years……
– Can’t compare West Coast to Chicago…….
– If the Money is right for Future F/A……..when will Ricketts open up his pockets?……..so far, Theo doesn’t have that money to spend…..
– Lets talk “No Trade Contracts”……Players like that type of contract….and Theo won’t give them out……
– Bryant 2015 ROY…….heard the same about Baez in 2014….how is that turning out so far?
– Current state of the Cubs is a factor for why Major Free Agents won’t sign with the Cubs in 2015…….
– Light at the end of the tunnel?………..Theo doesn’t even have a match from Tom Ricketts just to see where he is at in this hole he got himself into!

The Dodgers weren’t a playoff team from 2010-12 and had a losing record in 2010. The A’s weren’t a playoff team from 2007-11 and were no better than .500 in all of those years. The Red Sox were one of the worst teams in baseball in 2012. The baseball landscape changes all the time, and as I said before and many times before that, when it comes time for the Cubs to make a major free agent signing, it won’t be the 2014 Cubs that are trying to make that move. So the state of the Cubs in 2014 is irrelevant to their attempts at signing free agents in the future.
As for the money, Rickets was willing to open up his pockets to the tune of $120 million for the pitcher who is facing the Cubs tonight. And don’t give me that line about the Cubs saying they won’t be outbid for Tanaka because I have already proven to you that no one from the Cubs actually ever said that. The Cubs will spend money on free agents when they feel that doing so will both fit in with their rebuild and put them in contention to win the World Series. Doing that this off season fits neither criteria, so they let the likes of Jacoby Ellsbury and Shin Shoo Choo go elsewhere.
Really, no trade clauses? Who I am talking to, Jim Hendry? The blanket no trade clause is so 2004! Most GMs now will be willing to hand out partial no trade clauses where the player can list a certain number of teams he can block a trade to. This gives the front office some flexibility in shaping their roster from year to year and it gives the player some control over whether or not they are dealt. It’s a fair compromise that both side generally agree to. But it doesn’t mean that no no trade clause is a deal breaker by any means!
Saying Bryant would be Rookie of the Year in 2015 was hyperbole, not an actual prediction. Just like me saying the Cubs are on Step 2 doesn’t mean they actually have a list of steps on a chalk board in Theo’s office that he checks off at his own discretion. My point is, if the prospects come up and look like they can play, it doesn’t matter what the 2014 record is. Free agents will see the Cubs as an up and coming team and wouldn’t not sign just because they lost a bunch of games the past few years.
And lastly, what hole has Theo gotten himself into? The hole of having one of the top rated minor league systems in just two years of work? The hole of having the 4th pick in the draft to add to that system in a few weeks? The hole of probably having another top 10 pick in 2015? Again, this was the plan all along. They told us exactly what they were going to do and they are in the process of doing it right now. There was never a “we are going to be good by 2014” promise. There was never a “we will also sign a bunch of free agents along the way” promise. There was never a “if we are still losing 90 games in 2014, I will fire everyone and resign and you can bring in Ryne Sandberg to manage and run the team by fan collective decision making” promise. The current state of the Cubs should not be a surprise to anyone who has been paying attention over the last few years. It is what it is. You don’t have to be happy with it, you don’t have to agree with it, but please, no more comments that indicate you have absolutely no clue why the Cubs are bad or what their general strategy is. I shouldn’t have to come on here and explain it to the same people over and over again. You don’t have to agree, but please just get what they’re trying to do.

Doug he won’t change

Next stop for Hammel….DL

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