#Cubs and Arrieta face Pirates

Jake Arrieta will make his final regular season start on Wednesday in the third game of the Cubs four-game series against the Pirates at PNC Park. Arrieta is 10-2 with a 2.22 ERA in 15 career starts against the Pirates, including a complete game shutout in last year’s Wild Card game. He’s coming off a solid start against the Cardinals in which he threw seven shutout innings. His 2.85 ERA would be good enough to lead 26 other teams, but he’s third behind teammates Kyle Hendricks (1.99) and Jon Lester (2.28).

Arrieta is on track to become the first Cubs pitcher to post a sub-3.00 ERA in three straight seasons (minimum 150 IP) since Bill Hands did so, 1967-69.

Here’s Wednesday’s lineup:

Fowler CF

Bryant 3B

Rizzo 1B

Zobrist 2B

Heyward RF

Russell SS

Coghlan LF

Montero C

Arrieta P


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I got slammed recently on my comment on Grimm. Well, he still sucks and hope he is not on the play-off roster. I looked up your figures you blasted me with and I have no idea where you got them from. Maybe the moon. Grimm is not one of our best.

It’s either Lackey or Arietta for number 3.

It’s Lackey in third, Arietta as fourth starter in 7 game series’s.

If reports are accurate, Theo`s new contract will place him in Jeopardy`s Alex Trebek`s category. Each will pull down $10 mil annually. I think y`all will agree, that`s “real money.” (smiling)

Looking at around 48 million plus bonus clauses.

Very shocked its not on here for fans to discuss. Then again, there is a lot not put up here.

Agreed, Jasper. There has been a dearth of information, for whatever reason. I also heard today that the NFL is far behind MLB when it comes to salaries of executives on Theo Epstein`s level. No NFL GM commands a salary anywhere close to Theo`s. It is estimated that the highest paid NFL GM is receiving 4 Mil tops annually. {I know Theo is not technically a GM; he`s President of Baseball Operations, but everyone knows his duties include those normally attributed to a general manager.} As for tonight`s game, it`s rare for a baseball game to officially end in a tie. Greg Brown, the Pirates` principal broadcaster, said it has not happened to Pittsburgh since 1998. Don`t know when it last happened with the Cubs. Speaking of rare, I still marvel at the game earlier this summer when Chapman needed just three pitches to retire three batters in one inning of relief. I predict it will be a long while before fans see anything like that again, with a Cubs` pitcher, or any other MLB pitcher for that matter.

Another thing that has not been put up jhosk is, Arietta has voiced his displeasure with the Catching change in the 4th inning of his last start.
Montero was doing a great job obviously while Arietta gave up 4 runs. But then he gave up three more with Contreras, so I guess that was on Contreras. I guess Arietta was disappointed that he didn’t get his 19th win. His ERA went from 2.85 to over 3.05, but he was upset with the Catching change.
Remember him announcing in ST he would not give any hometown discount?
Now he his voicing his dis pleasure with Maddon’s decision?
Does he know how this might affect the team at this point in the season?
Jake how about shutting your mouth until after the season, then request a trade. If you don’t like it in Chicago, just go away.
Starting to sound like Jeff Samardizija.

Aloha jasper- I meant to bring that up and thank you for doing so. Arrieta has not done well the last 1/3 of the season. I remember saying after last year that if he could have a 2016 season era of say 2.75 that would be great. I did not expect him to repeat what he did in 2015. If not for the run production that he has received via the offense for him, he does not have his current record. I think it was very profound of you when you said at the beginning of the season or even before that that the organization should not give him an extension. I was thinking if next year, no matter if the team is in contention or not, if Arrieta is have a great year trade him by the deadline and bring in a ton of pitching prospects. Possible deal him and Lackey or him and Hammel like they did with the Shark in 2014 for Addison. By the way, I wish there were a way to have kept Straily who came in that deal too. Many of my A’s contacts said that guy can pitch and now you see what he was able to do in his first real season in the bigs on a losing Reds team! As jhosk would say but I digressed. Getting back to Arrieta, I could see your point in taking a chance and trading him after this season. Again, if that would bring in a haul of pitching talent I say go for it and trade him back to the American League so we do not have to see him too often. I also am concerned with his comments because I am not sure I can trust him to go out there and give his all. I think they need to start Lester-Hendricks first for sure. By the way, too bad for the 1 error yesterday if not for that, the team picks up the win. Take care now. Mahalo!

Thank you K.g.
Arietta kind of apologized through the press today. I respect that, but some things you say in the heat of the moment, you just cant take back.
As you stated about what I said in spring on Arietta and his contract, not taking a hometown discount. I did state that and feel the same today.
I always thought contract wise, Theo and Management should be taken care of first. After all, they built this Cub team not only for sustained success, but for the Ricketts and us fans. That’s done.
If and I say if, the Cubs win it all, it takes the proverbial monkey off the backs of Management and Ownership. That will give Theo/Jed so much more freedom. If that comes about, it will be easy to trade a squeaky wheel.
I really like Arietta, but his statement on his contract or his whining of Catching changes are uncalled for.
If he has a problem, Maddon has a private office.

Aloha jasper- Absolutely agree that McLeod/Hoyer/Epstein earned their new contracts. So often you see folks hired into certain positions with big pay-offs and then not producing. Well not with the above three! I also have to give the Ricketts kudos because along with the folks at the time (2011-ish) they made the decision that would bring in Theo and company. I am glad to hear that Jake “kind-of” apologized as you put it. What sticks in my mind is earlier this year him and his agent saying no to a hometown discount to the team that took a chance on him along with mentoring from Bosio which helped him to grow. I understand, it is a business and that is their decision. I do not feel that the Cubs at this time should “shell-out” Greinke/Price/Scherzer/Strasburg kind of money on a pitcher. I actually think your idea of trading Jake in the off-season, not during next season is a good one if they can bring in a “Chapman” kind of return especially in pitching prospects. Young pitching along with some vets is what helped the Giants win 3 WS in 5yrs. So, looking forward the organization knows it can build off of Lester & Hendricks and hopefully pick up young arms. Again, nothing against Arrieta, he made his decision and feels that he deserves a certain salary; good luck to him and per your suggestion trade him and hopefully to the other league whereby the team does not have to see him too often! Would not want him to throw this 3rd no-no against our Cubbies! Well this is all speculation at this point let us hope they are all ready for the task that lays before them! Take care now. Mahalo!

I hear you, jasper. Saw Arrieta interviewed after Wednesday`s game, and the very last thing he said to the interviewer was, “Whatever team I face in the playoffs is in trouble.” Let`s hope Jake can back that up, because we fans are justified in being concerned about which Jake Arrieta we are going to see going forward, the one we saw Wednesday, the one we saw in the second half of 2015 and the first part of 2016, or something in between, which very well may be more than acceptable. I believe the playoff rotation should be the following order, and think you`ll agree, but if you do not, I`d like to know: Lester, Hendricks, Lackey, and Arrieta.

Remember Arietta and that Wild Card game against the Pirates in Pittsburgh?
I have to go with Arietta game 3 on the road.

That was at a time when Jake was putting up historic numbers. We knew that could not continue. He has come back to earth, and is now still very good, but believe Lackey is performing at a higher level these days. As Lackey himself has been quoted, “I came here (meaning to the Cubs) for jewelry.” So we know he`s motivated. But so is Arrieta. It`s a compelling debate and probably comes down to “six of one, and a half dozen of the other.”

Aloha kiosk, no doubt Arrieta is still a good pitcher but boy what a fall since he started off the season at what 9-0? He has basically gone 9-8 since then and his era inflating. I am trying to remember when he and Boras said no discount, if around that time the fall began. For as good as the FO has been and they deserve credit no one is perfect, with that being said I wish Straily had been held a little longer so if you lose an Arrieta to trade or FA you are not down so many starters and you have young arms with you for awhile. Anyhow, them poor Phillies seem to have no fight with them pesky Mets. So the Giants have to win out the season to get into the WC. Will be interesting to see who the opponent is come 10/7! Mahalo!

Aloha jhosk, sorry the self-correcting device spelled your screen-name incorrectly! Will try to listen to some Scully today! Mahalo!

Yes, k.g. The Pirates have been disappointing as well. What we do know for sure is the Mets will be hosting the NL wild-card game Wednesday October 5 at Citi Field in Flushing Queens. They deserve much praise for reaching this stage, given all the setbacks the club has endured in 2016. Think of all the position players and pitchers both who have gone on the DL or have been lost for the remainder of 2016. Terry Collins` job was rumored to be in jeopardy just a month ago, but not so today. He`s being viewed as a miracle-worker now. He and Joe Maddon have a history going back to the Angels` days, as you know. Collins retained Maddon on a team Terry came in to manage, and Maddon did not forget that. (Some of the holdover players lobbied Collins to do so.} Collins praised Maddon as the best manager in baseball during the 2015 NLCS.

Aloha jhosk, yes the Mets and Collins deserve respect, they are hungry and if they win on the 5th, the Cubs need to take them very seriously because they have shown they can win with all the adversity they have endured. Let’s hope the offense can come back and pick up Lester today. Mahalo!

Jhosk-PS how about Giants rookie Ty Blach getting his first big league win going 8innings against Kershaw and the Dodgers, throwing a shutout and he got 2 hits against Clayton too! Mahalo!

Yes, sir. The rookie outpitched Kershaw and that`s impressive. The Giants are assured of playing beyond Sunday. They have a challenge Sunday going against Maeda. Did you hear about that 22 year-old slugger/pitcher in Japan, Shohei Otani?

Aloha jhosk! Yes I know about Otani-san! One of the most beloved summer events in Japan is called the Koshien. This is a huge baseball tournament of high schools from all over the country. I have been in Japan during this period and it seems like everyone is tuned in from young to older. Well, Otani-san really made a name for himself in the 2012 tournament and the country would learn of him as he is from the Northern region of Honshu (the main island of Japan). Not only can he hit but he can throw like a Chapman (recorded top speed of 102mph). Wouldn’t that be awesome if he was “proven” that the Cubs could pick him up? Well, I will stop dreaming there. FYI: The Giants folks think they can give our Cubbies a run for the money because they feel that when it comes to depth of starting pitching they have it over the Mets and they are starting to hit now. I will say they do have very good starters. Take care now! Mahalo!

I`m sure the Mets feel confident they can compete with the Cubs also, k.g., and we are going to find out soon enough if that is so. I do believe the wild-card game will include those two teams, with the Cardinals on the outside looking in. I`ve heard it said most Cubs` fans would prefer to bypass the Redbirds. Sunday`s results will tell us much. It`s going to be satisfying to see the Cubs finally play meaningful games after this long stretch of contests that do not matter.{ And yes, it is not a stretch to contemplate Otani-san one day being a member of the Cubs` roster.}

Aloha jhosk, I feel bad for Hendricks but it is not the end of the world. As much as I have advocated for Soler, am not impressed today with his defense or plate approach. Cubs need to pick this game up to finish well. I am concerned that the two best starters were shaken a bit here at the end. Scoring opportunities not capitalized on. Bullpen has been knocked around and Rondon is in a funk right now. The Giants are playing great ball right now and hitting again. I also agree the Mets would give the Cubs a run for the money. Back to the Giants, even if Madbum has to go in NY for the WC game, they get past that they still have a lot of pitching depth left against our Cubs. Moore pitching great game today, Maeda knocked out early. Maddon has his job cut out for him, getting this team mentally and physically prepared to play any team in the playoffs. Take care now. Mahalo!

There`s no doubt the Cubs are going to be under tremendous pressure to prevail in these playoffs. Wednesday`s game at Citi Field is “must see” for anyone who calls himself/herself a baseball fan. Two of the best starters in the game going head to head, MadBum and Thor. I would imagine Maddon needs to have the Cubs` pitchers throwing to the position players this week to keep everyone sharp and mentally prepared for the weekend games. I am more adamant than ever that Lackey be our third pitcher after Lester and Hendricks. Arrieta has looked awfully ordinary for a long while, and fans should be concerned with Jake. As you suggest, we do not match up all that well with the Giants` starters, and the Mets are probably a more favorable opponent. But I`d like to hear from other posters on this subject, posters who have been extraordinarily silent of late, I might add.

Aloha jhosk, forgot to mention that the Giants/fans/announcers all sang Take Me Out To The Ballgame to Vince Scully, it was very cool! And host about Mat B’s guy, Szczur coming through late! That is huge! Mahalo!

Yes, k.g. I did listen to Vin Scully` call of the eighth and ninth innings of today`s game on the MLB Radio Network, his very last after 67 years. Glad to hear he was paid tribute to at AT&T Park. When Puig came to bat in one of those innings, he was showered with jeers by the fans. Why is that, k.g.? Why do the Giants` fans have disdain for Yasiel Puig? He must have done something to incur their wrath?

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